Karna did not believe in using immoral ploys to defeat the Pandavas; he believed in battle. Maybe he will once you tell him who you are. Karna in Mahabharat is depicted as one of the most complex characters. KMG text: "Karna that foremost of all wielders of the bow went to where the bow was, and QUICKLY RAISING IT AND STRUNG IT and placed the arrows on the string. According to BORI CE, Lord Krishna blaming Karna for varnavrat conspiracy in section-90 of karna parv is an interpolation. go read mahabharath.It was'nt even a naagastra. Karna is the adopted son of a charioteer (Adhiratha), who is of Suta or Souta caste. The evil sins of Karna according to Bori Critical ... Karna conspired to kill the Pandavas after the defeat of Drupada and before the burning of the lac house. There was no 'cheating' in the first 2 wars.. so Karna is definitely NOT stronger than Arjuna – ram Apr 4 '17 at 14:23 He just supported the cruel Duryodhan with out raising a question. Karna did not conquer Shalya and the Madra kingdom either. The same country that has been defeated by India in many wars. Some say he conquered the world, others say he only conquered a few kingdoms, some say he conquered just second rate kings, others even say that Karna just defeated one king and then started to believe that he conquered the whole world. In fact, according to BORI, Drupada was a poor warrior who was not a worthy rival to Vrishasena, Duryodhana or Jayadratha, moreover, Drupada could never defeat a warrior in his life. The evil sins of Karna according to Bori Critical Edition. I also found it their too so Karna basically defeated a father-in-law (Sasur) of Krishna. According to BORI Critical Edition, Karna was weaponless, chariotless and heedless, enaged in extracting wheel of chariot when Arjuna aimed Karna from backside and Shiva shot arrow in order to rectify unarmed target of Arjuna. It's a big misconception that Arjuna killed Karna by cheating and by using unfair means but according to BORI CE which is the most authentic version of Vyasa Mahabharata, Arjuna killed Karna in a fair fight.All the references provided here are from Bibek Debroy translation of BORI CE BORI says karna never fell unconscious. Because the conquest of Afghanistan is a feat that has only been repeated by Alexander the Great & Genghis Khan. ". You asked Satyaki the blogger. Quite biased statements only a desperate person can give to look down upon such a great character like Karna. As per pandavas fanatics, Arjuna didn’t cheated Karna as per BORI … Karna's Digvijaya according to BORI Critical Edition Mahabharata. No "uchit uttar" lol. Moreover, Karna seldom used the invincible Vijay Dhanush except for his final duel with Arjuna while the latter used Gandhiva throughout his life. Karna seiged Rajapura and killed most of the warriors of the Kambhoja clan. These people lived in Lahore (modern day Pakistan) lol. He also says the most important king defeated by Karna is Nagnajit. Most reporters (Shalya & Bhishma the only unbiased ones) agree that Karna only defeated 5 opponents. And beholding the son of Surya--Karna of the Suta tribe--like unto fire, or Soma, or Surya himself, resolved to shoot the mark, those foremost of bowmen--the sons of Pandu--regarded the mark as already shot and brought down upon the ground. The entire article is about "I think, I presume,....." Best example of weed damaging brain cells completely, Yudhisthir told Arjuna before the final war that Karna can conquer the three worlds with ease. Now, the defeats of Karna according to the original Mahabharata: 1- By gandharvas: 'O king! That’s why he is addressed as Sutaputra. According to BORI Critical Edition, Karna never fell unconscious rather he was just stunned (amazed) Karna swooning episode is an interpolation as per BORI Critical Edition of mahabharata. Is there any evidence that Karna feared kichakas, did not fight jarasandh , did not go for war during Pandava's exile. And he, after a hard conflict, brought the hero under subjection, and, O best of monarchs, made Drupada contribute silver and gold and gems, and also pay tribute. He was a great servent but not great warrior. And then there are the Kauravas, the bad guys. But, other versions of the Mahabharata such as Jaimini Bharata or Kumara Vyasa Mahabharata do not mention the event. According to B.Debroy translation of BORI CE, Kshtriya Karna failed to string bow in draupadi swayamvara contest in cross reference. And don't forget that the text says both of them brought the maiden with "them" meaning karna also touched the maiden and must have offended her. Videha has a capital called Mithila. with Shalya in the Karna Parva, it is found out that he considered the Gandharas an uncivilized people. He must be punished. And what right did karna have to harm them (the pandavas) anyways? Definition of the word "plots" (from a google search). That includes Harivamsa and Srimad Bhagawatam and the Puranas. According to BORI CE, hypocrite reporter vaisampayana has skipped the ‘Digvijay Conquest’ of Karna during live telecast of reporting. Screenshot (to prove that "Madra" is in modern-day Punjab): Satyaki's achievements in the Mahabharata. Infact nowhere it is written that karna regained his sense so losing sense is out of context. In facts he was the greatest curse of the society. So he could be an interpolated character, nothing is told about him and he is only mentioned to make Karna look good. Yeah right biased for the truth. Moreover, he killed Shakuni's father!! 16. Not even in a single battle he was able to defeat Arjuna. The character we talk about the least is Karna - the ill-fated guy, the low-born king and the man who was accidentally cursed several times. Duryodhana performed a sacrifice that only Vishnu ever performed. Period. So Dharma was a clear winner and hope you support Dharma as well. Unknown king only mentioned twice, by Shalya and Bhishma. I know i have that username, but you never asked me to make an account on quora. Can you counter this argument??? Karna was only absent for 10 days. Since many people have doubts about Satyaki's capability's and use Bori Mahabharata as an excuse making statements like it removed all of Satyaki's achievements etc, i am going to make this post with proof and screenshots from the text of Bori … According to BORI Critical Edition, Karna never fell unconscious rather he was just stunned (amazed) Karna swooning episode is an interpolation as per BORI Critical Edition of mahabharata. Rajapura was the capital of the Kamboja kingdom. A/C to BORI, the statement of vaisampayana in section-199 where he narrates about Yudhistira presenting an examples of 'Polyandry ' are an interpolations. - Karna and Arjuna are two valiant warriors, both important characters in the great Hindu epic, the … We bring you 10 lesser known stories about the ‘suryaputra’, … Exactly like the advocates of persons like KASAAB OF PAKISTAN. He never protested Durdodhyan in all cheating. That Karna was racist towards Gandharas. Analysis: According to BORI Karna never defeated any Gandharva in his life. Exhibiting both nobility and nastiness, this popular character was always by Duryodhana's side and opposed the pandavas in every way possible. Karna conquered the whole world REALLY? So Karna basically beat up a woman's father because his friend Duryodhana wanted her. The Ramayana and the Mahabharata. So he did not avenge his ghosha yatra defeat. After all you should realize that Mahabharata war was between Dharma and Adharma in which mighty warriors like BHISMA and Dronacharya who didn't used any divyastras were also defeated and sacrificed their lives(Even Arjuna didn't used his Divine weapons to avoid huge destruction on Earth but where Karna has used Vasavi shakti and Nagastra). His only ambition was to prove himself as a greatest warrior. Yes, no doubt Arjuna was a great warrior who could be defeated by only a few exceptional warriors. Funny that all the compliment is either political move or exaggeration from the PERSPECTIVE of author. According to BORI Critical Edition, Karna was weaponless, chariotless and heedless, enaged in extracting wheel of chariot when Arjuna aimed Karna from backside and Shiva shot arrow in order to rectify unarmed target of Arjuna This is the same country that was ruled by Janaka (the father of Sita from Ramayana). By the way, somewhere I have read that Krishna married a daughter of Nagnajit. According to BORI, Draupadi was the only woman in our history who married multiple men. Why would Karna have to defeat the same dynasty twice? Karna only conquered Videha, Nagnajit, Gandhara, Ambhasta, Kamvoja etc. In KMG there are two narratives which are used by Karna fans to prove that Karna had defeated Bhagadatta in his conquest.The first narrative is of the Vana Parva where the Digvijaya of Karna is described.But according to BORI the whole description of Digvijaya of Karna is an interpolation.BORI clearly removed that section where the Digvijaya of Karna is described. they are equivalent to Mrityunjaya. FAIR DEATH OF KARNA BY ARJUNA. Everything else is fake. Instead he only conquered the tribe of Gandharas (the people that lived in the kingdom of "Gandhar", Sakuni's people). Karna never defeated any Nishadas in his digvijay. Karna did not defeat any army called Narayani sena. I only trust two sources. They were people who are skilled in warfare, they were mountaineers, and lived in the Himalayas protected by fortresses. While according to Romesh C. Dutt's translation, Arjuna simply defeated Duryodhana while dodging the other warriors. All authentic versions mention that Karna fought him and won.But i do not trust Bhagavatam as it is a fan-fiction written after Mahabharata. DIGVIJAY OF KARNA – (BORI CE) This is the most awaited thread and finally posting on the demand of karnians. But, Bhishma, Kripa, Shalya and Dhritarashtra narrate about the failures of Karna in the Virata War. Well it has been FIVE MONTHS that is the equivalent of OVER 150 DAYS. He conquered them in his digvijay, their is sufficient proof for this. This is a big mismatch in the epic just like above paragraph that indicates lord Krishna himself failed in Swayamvara. 40) According to BORI CE, Arjuna predicting that the wives of Karna are going to be widows and Shri Krishna will see them as widows is an interpolation . karna was smuggling women from magadha into anga, False not a drop of truth read bori CE u are manipulating facts it's opposite of what you say which is written in bori CE. Quote: " Then Duryodhana, Karna and Subala’s son Shakuni tried many other means to kill the Pandavas. I guess Karna fans can be proud of this achievement. Although the term everyone may be an exaggeration made by Bhishma. According to BORI Critical Edition of Mahabharatha, Karna's Digvijaya is an interpolation.BORI removed it from Vana Parva in their Critical Edition of Mahabharatha. Sale Ban hi pada rah Videshi hokar indian bolta hai apne aap ko chutiye. If adharma has won in Mahabharata, you wouldn't be using your gadget and typing some stupid comments here. Go get some life kiddo, "You were present in the Kurukshetra and watching lord Sri Krishna lowering the chariot". They were righteous people that never did anything bad to him. It's a big misconception that Arjuna killed Karna by cheating and by using unfair means but according to BORI CE which is the most authentic version of Vyasa Mahabharata, Arjuna killed Karna in a fair fight.All the references provided here are from Bibek Debroy translation of BORI CE Yet, he displays great valor, honor and selfless offering. Karna was scared of Kichaka's brothers and he feared Kichaka. According to Manu Smriti, the people who have a Kshatriya father and Brahmin mother are of Suta caste (charioteer class) MUST READ: Different names of Karna in Mahabharat | Karna is not his original name Karna plotted to murder the Pandavas in their childhood, prior to the introduction of Kripa (by vaisampayana). Fact check... Analyzing Karna's performance in the Kurukshetra war. Infact nowhere it is written that karna regained his sense so losing sense is out of context. This means in secrecy, and it is basically the same definition as before for the noun. But if we read BORI CE carefully , we can see some important narrations of Karna's digvijaya by Bhimshma, Dhritharashtra, Narada etc in more than over 7 places. Karna did not ever conquer Matsya kingdom. But is it not odd that the same Magadha who's previous lord (Jarasandha) was defeated by Karna long ago is now engaging in a second conflict with Karna? Does it make any sense? 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